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I've started reading Eragon, partly because Eldest is out now, and I feel compelled to find out whether or not I actually have any interest in the series. There are definitely bits of this book that feel like they were written by a teenager, which is unsurprising given that the author started it when he was 15 and published it when he was 17. Some of the dialogue, particularly the expository stuff, is inarguably wooden. And yet I find myself oddly drawn in and compelled to read on.

I say "oddly" because, as [livejournal.com profile] sleetfall will happily confirm, I'm not actually a big fantasy guy. Oh, sure, there are certain sub-genres, particularly those influenced by Asia, that I get fired up about. But aside for a sort of grudging respect for the Tolkien oeuvre (although I agree with [livejournal.com profile] theferrett that, from a certain point of view, they're bad books) I'm not actually one to get into long fantasy series. Science fiction will call me like a moth to a flame. But fantasy, well. The first time I have to read a blow-by-blow description of any sort of hand-to-hand combat, or find the story put on hold so that the author can serve up 50 pages (or more!) of "necessary" history regarding his mythic lands, or worse still find a character I had come to enjoy abandoned utterly in favor of completely new people 300 pages into a 500 page book, with the tacit understanding that he'll probably show up again, down the line, a book or so from now... I admit it, part of me tends to just give up. Maybe its a short attention span. My mind wanders.

I want to think its more than that. I enjoy the fantasy genre; I love a good fantasy movie (which comes along rarely, in my opinion), or television series (which is so rare it might just be mythical or imaginary.) And as I said, I'll often find myself reading long science fiction series without batting an eyelash. I get involved, and my interest is held. And its not like I don't read anything under the general heading of "fantasy" that's long-form. So-called "modern" fantasy? No problem. Graphic novels? Check. Harry Potter? Try and stop me. Sure, I might re-read extensively, but I tend to do that anyway, and if I find myself using it to refresh the salient details of a complex tale, all the better. But I don't know, most "classic" high fantasy just escapes me.

But I'm going to keep plugging away at Eragon. For the moment its got my attention, and I might even end up liking it.

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Date: 2005-09-16 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adampb.livejournal.com
I have a fantasy-book-reading friend who refuses to read Eragon on the grounds that a teenager shouldn't get to have a book published.

It makes more sense when he explains it, you hear the indignation in his voice.

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Date: 2005-09-16 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manslayerliz.livejournal.com
I agree. Wheel of Time et al suck balls--- that's why I'm a Harry Potter and Sword of Truth -type girl. Let me know if this book you are working on is worth reading and I just might take a break from Anne Rice's Erotic Sleeping Beauty Trilogy long enough to give it a shot.^-^

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Date: 2005-09-17 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theshanakee.livejournal.com
High fantasy really does suck. LotR is forgivably bad because it was the first set of modern books to really do that, but after that someone really should have improved on the genre somehow, and no one really has.

And for the record, Wheel of Time and Sword of Truth were just...grumble. I think the last "fantasy" book that I read that was any good was the Gene Wolfe New Sun series. The only problem is it suffers from a writing style denser than Cicero...

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Date: 2005-09-17 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleetfall.livejournal.com
Well fuck you all then (not really), I'm just gonna go and be the one to defend high fantasy. I think people are going to have to let me know what it is about it that sucks. Sorry, I've had this argument before, and just because you don't enjoy something doesn't make it poor writing. Crap people, try Raymond Feist. Though yes its a long series with a big history, he builds that history over the course of his series... but YOU SEE IT HAPPEN. Other than that it just starts. No back story, no explanation. Its: this is the realm, its like medieval europe, now lets get on with it.

As for the Wheel of Time series... its not really bad literature. It just takes a lot of patience... and Robert Jordan is a complete asshole. And what about George RR Martin? I'm pretty sure he has a damned solid writing style. Granted, there is plenty of fantasy popcorn crap out there, but that doesn't damn the whole genre. Maybe pick up something by David E. Coe, or Simon Green.

Ok, enough. The point is that I enjoy fantasy... and my enjoyment makes it neither good nor bad the same way that your dislike of it makes it neither good nor bad. Its the writing itself, and just because the big essentially brand-name authors don't hold your attention, doesn't mean you won't find good stuff in other authors. After all, Robert Jordan, Terry Brooks and Terry Goodkind (all of whom I like) are kinda like... well... TGI Fridays. Their stuff is pretty decent, and has wide appeal. Hm, I think I said enough at the beginning of this long-ass paragraph didn't I? Ok done now.

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Date: 2005-09-17 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manslayerliz.livejournal.com
Well, granted I only read read one wheel of time book, and I have read all of the Sword of Truth Books 4 or 5 times, but from what I can gather it's basically the same premise--- regular guy turns out to be the chosen one who will save the world, etc etc, the big difference between the two is that SoT reveals details about the world and its history when they are necessary, while WoT makes me sit through pages of it for no good reason. Another big one is that the SoT characters are all more real--- you read one SoT book and you want to find out what happens to everyone. After I read WoT, I had a hard time remembering anyone's NAME, much less anything else about them. So, there's my 2 cents... And while I'm at it, you're right, Martin and Feist both write pretty solid stuff--- no complaints here. (For once...)

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Date: 2005-09-17 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manslayerliz.livejournal.com
And while I've got the attention of all these book people, did any of you ever read Stephen King's It?? Ok, put aside all your collective prejudices about how King writes Pop Horror for the masses (because that's what I had to do...), and just read it and get back to me. I read it 4 months ago and I'm STILL trying to figure out what I read. It's a really bizarre combination of slasher horror/folk myth/metaphysical fantasy.

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Date: 2005-09-18 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] juineve.livejournal.com
Boo.. doesn't anyone at all read Peter Beagle? I mean c'mon Last Unicorn rocks all sorts! The Innkeeper's song is pretty cool/fuxed up/good too. Also there was a little known sci-fi /fant authr, Simon R. Green, he wrote two books I enjoyed quite a bit.. Down Among the Dead Men, which inspired a campaign/world of my own, and "Blue Moon Rising," plz plz plzzzzzz check them out.. I'll double cut LJ posts!

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